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Re: My '58 Van

Postby MickEssex » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:54 am

Thanks Jack, I never thought about using a towing relay, it sounds like the only option and as you say just means running a 3 or 4 wires from front of the van to the back.

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby D jones » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:22 pm

just wondering do the mirrors work as have same problem with my van and were did you purchase them from.

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby MickEssex » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:20 pm

I took the van for a spin this afternoon, first time since fitting the mirrors. They are definitely a big improvement over the round mirrors that were fitted before, coupled with the reversing camera I fitted I'm now happy. I still think slightly bigger mirrors may be better, but I can live with what I have now. Sometime in the future I may try out VW T2 mirrors but not sure if these will be too big for the minor.

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby MickEssex » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:28 pm

I bought them on ebay, there are cheaper versions of the same mirrors available, quality of these are very good.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 1931105581
You'll also need some M16 1.5 pitch fine thread half nuts and some M20 thick washers.

Hope this helps.

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby don58van » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:07 pm

Hi Mick

Have you considered keeping the reversing camera permanently ON (while the ignition is ON)? This would give you a supplement to the mirrors -- not just when reversing.

I only ask because I am considering this for my van (still off the road for restoration).

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby PoolGuy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:26 am

don58van wrote:Hi Mick

Have you considered keeping the reversing camera permanently ON (while the ignition is ON)? This would give you a supplement to the mirrors -- not just when reversing.

I only ask because I am considering this for my van (still off the road for restoration).

Don

That’s my plan Don, sort of like a virtual rear view mirror. I still have to strip the camera loom so that I can get it up the a pillar.

Good news with the mirrors Mick, I’m going to hold off any further mirror mods until the camera is done.
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Re: My '58 Van

Postby don58van » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:46 am

Oooops :oops: Poolguy: Sorry about getting your name wrong.

Please keep us informed about the camera -- lets hope it is a huge success. The poor rearward vision from the van is a real concern for me and I know there are many others who feel the same way.

BTW I saw a picture recently of a van where the whole raised area on the back doors was glass, so that it extended nearly to floor level. :shock: :shock: That might be one solution, but not something I would ever consider doing.

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby PoolGuy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:14 am

I’ve had it working as a bit of a lashup and it’s very good, I just feel that it’ll be better with the monitor positioned where the rear view mirror would be.
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Re: My '58 Van

Postby don58van » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:08 am

I just feel that it’ll be better with the monitor positioned where the rear view mirror would be


Yes, looking down at a screen is less than desirable when driving.

As you are no doubt aware, there are accessory reversing cameras where the screen is embedded in the interior rear vision mirror.

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby PoolGuy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:40 am

Yes, I had a rear view mirror one in a Transit a few years back but they’re only about 2” view, I’ve got a 5” stand alone screen for the 8cwt, it fits nicely between the sun visors and gives a very good view of the world behind.
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Re: My '58 Van

Postby Sleeper » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:54 am

I bought one of these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-DVR-4-3- ... 2749.l2649

well two actually ( one always has to have a spare ) and it's as cheap as chips and apart from the Chinese/English instructions it is working a treat...

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby MickEssex » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:26 am

I bought the reverse camera before picking up the van as an impulse buy so didn't really give it enough thought, I never even thought about using it as a permanent rear view mirror. I have also fitted my front and rear dash cam which I have had fitted to my modern for a few years. I may go a different route and buy a new kit which would serve both purposes and be easily accountable and out of the way, not sure if 9.88" is going to be too big (I never have to pull down the visors) but it would give a large screen view on the mirror. A bonus is it also displays a clock.

AUTO-VOX X2 Streaming Media Dash Cam,1296P HD 9.88" Full Touch Screen, 720P IP68 Waterproof Reversing Camera with Night Vision, Dual Lens Mirror Dash Cam with G-sensor, Parking Mode, LDWS, GPS https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CLSVZ53/ ... bDbRYB1P8W

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Re: My '58 Van

Postby PoolGuy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:46 pm

MickEssex wrote: not sure if 9.88" is going to be too big (I never have to pull down the visors) but it would give a large screen view on the mirror.

You might be ok then, my main reason for the 5" was the ability to use the visors.

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on camera mounting options.
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Re: My '58 Van

Postby MickEssex » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:55 pm

Having the external visor the internal ones are unnecessary.
The camera for the reverse camera is mounted below the number plate next to the tow bar, this seems to be adequate when using it to reverse but if I were to use it as a rear view mirror, I think it should be mounted higher up for better perspective. The display which has a windscreen suction mount is currently stuck to the front of the heater which puts the display just below the dash panel but pretty flush with it. The only downside is it sits below the ignition switch so the keys hang down over the front of it.

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Reverse camera position

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Position of reverse camera display

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Position of reverse camera display obscured by keys


My dash cam has front and rear mini cameras which all plug into a little box with the screen on it which can be tucked away out of site. Unfortunately, the mounts are designed for front and rear screens that have a slope, whereas the Minor windows are quite verticle. I had to stick the back one onto the door just above the window which only just worked. the front only just had enough swivel to get a good view.

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Rear dash-cam camera position inside.

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Rear dash-cam camera position outside.

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Front dash-cam camera position.

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Front dash-cam camera position.


I think going for a combined setup as in the link I posted above is the way to go, maybe even putting the rear camera inside the rear window at the bottom so it sits higher than at present.
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Re: My '58 Van

Postby MickEssex » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:12 pm

Spot the difference.

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