Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Custard » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:27 pm

I have a 63 with the banjo wheel and a 65 with the later wheel, but not had the later one apart and the car is well wrapped up like a parcel.

From (distant) memory they are the same apart from I definitely remember the later one being a clear plastic tube in the steering column and the earlier one is black more like Bakelite.

Basically just needs to be an insulator, so I reckon if pushed one could be copied in wood on a lathe.

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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Big Al » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:30 pm

Thanks for that, I'll try and have a look at what I have. You photos are a real bonus, cheers. :thumbleft:
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby tickman » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:58 pm

Big Al wrote:......
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This is the diagram that I've borrowed from Moss: http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewP ... rtOrder=88
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Al is the white disc metal? I assume it is to complete the circuit for the horn.
Just wondered as I need one or need to make one.
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Big Al » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:46 pm

Yes it is metal, of some sort.
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Roger46 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:55 pm

I've recently acquired a banjo steering wheel but haven't yet sourced a horn button or fitted it. But I have just acquired the later mini indicator switch (Lucas part no 13H7779) with the horn on the end of it. So that gives me completely free rein over fitting the steering wheel.

Now it would be nice to have the indicators on the left like a modern car, can I release the steering column, and rotate it 180 degrees to achieve this or are there hidden problems ? I have also considered ditching the self cancelling tabs as they don't always work then I could just fit the switch on the left ! I was going to add a small buzzer to remind me to cancel them, do I need a light as well?
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Custard » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:45 pm

If you have not got the version with the steering lock you can rotate it.

I did it many years ago so it matched the modern my brother was learning to drive in as he practised in my car.

Also If I remember correctly I had to just ease a bit more of the wiring harness through.

I did remove and refit the steering wheel the right way up aswell.

This doesn't matter as unlike some moderns the self cancelling peg is in the column, not the back of the wheel so it is unaffected by the relative position of wheel and column.

I turned it back as soon as he passed and got his own car though.

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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Roger46 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:21 pm

Thanks, why did you turn it back ? I must admit to fumbling for indicators that aren't there when driving my moggy or struggling with the wind screen wipers when I want to turn when driving my wife's car!
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Custard » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:05 am

I just liked it being different when friends had escorts and the like.

I also had a small steering wheel and tended to do it with just a finger of the right hand often while going for the gears with the left hand.

It has never bothered me them being on the other side, but I was used to hopping in and out of various different vehicles.

It always amused me when people start saying yours are up for left when mine are down etc as if you think of it as clockwise and anticlockwise they are all the same anticlockwise for left clockwise for right.

Each to his own, make the car the way you want it and I find the more you personalise it the better you take care of it.

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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby ruairidh » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:01 pm

If you can get a Metro, Maestro, Mondeo and some Land Rover switches you can fit the wipers and indicators you will need to fit 2 speed wipers as the wiring is different. :-)
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby ruairidh » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:37 pm

I have found a complete horn assembly for the banjo wheel if its any good to anybody. :-)
Highest bidder of Jaffa cakes win. :lol:
Can post pics if required. :-)
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby tickman » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:15 pm

ruairidh wrote:I have found a complete horn assembly for the banjo wheel if its any good to anybody. :-)
Highest bidder of Jaffa cakes win. :lol:
Can post pics if required. :-)

I need at least the little metal disc!
Even sizes to copy one might get me going.
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Roger46 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:22 pm

ruairidh wrote:I have found a complete horn assembly for the banjo wheel if its any good to anybody. :-)
Highest bidder of Jaffa cakes win. :lol:
Can post pics if required. :-)

I bid a whole packet if it's the bull emblem not the "M" !
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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby ruairidh » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:59 am

Fraid its the M motif. :cry:
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Just read this article.

Thanks very much for the info.

'Lucy' has a tendancy to blow the horn at the most inappropriate times, (early hours/late at night.) without any intervention from me!
The horn push in my 'banjo' steering-wheel mustn't be assembled in the correct order! With the help of your info and great photographs I'll be able to check.

Thanks again blokes.

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Re: Series III banjo steering wheel horn.

Postby Custard » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:59 pm

As the horn is live and earthed through the wheel and column any loose connection, broken wire or chafed covering that allows the wire to touch metal will cause it to sound.

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